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'The Moon Under Water' - George Orwell
« on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
All this talk recently about the possibility of Humphrey having lost the plot completely and the Samuel Smith empire approaching its demise, reminded me of a thread from last summer when somewhat uncharacteristically he gave staff an insight into his business plan.

'He has a plan?!' I hear you shout - 'Yes!'

- the trouble is its dated 1946 and based on an article in the London Evening Standard by none other than George Orwell. Apparently, Humphrey circulated a copy of the essay to staff last June by way of explanation and partly in response to the stinging criticism he got from the folk music people he banished from his pubs like the Red Lion at Framlington. (see posts here:- http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=124297#2744329

Unfortunately no copy of the memo was posted, but here is the essay written in 1946 and what supposedly Humphrey takes as his inspiration for his pubs. Interestingly, it is said Tim Martin of Wetherspoons was similarly inspired, and indeed many of his pubs bear the name 'Moon under Water'.



The Moon Under Water
by George Orwell
Evening Standard, 9 February 1946




My favourite public-house, the Moon Under Water, is only two minutes from a bus stop, but it is on a side-street, and drunks and rowdies never seem to find their way there, even on Saturday nights.

Its clientele, though fairly large, consists mostly of "regulars" who occupy the same chair every evening and go there for conversation as much as for the beer.

If you are asked why you favour a particular public-house, it would seem natural to put the beer first, but the thing that most appeals to me about the Moon Under Water is what people call its "atmosphere."

To begin with, its whole architecture and fittings are uncompromisingly Victorian. It has no glass-topped tables or other modern miseries, and, on the other hand, no sham roof-beams, ingle-nooks or plastic panels masquerading as oak. The grained woodwork, the ornamental mirrors behind the bar, the cast-iron fireplaces, the florid ceiling stained dark yellow by tobacco-smoke, the stuffed bull's head over the mantelpiece ?everything has the solid, comfortable ugliness of the nineteenth century.

In winter there is generally a good fire burning in at least two of the bars, and the Victorian lay-out of the place gives one plenty of elbow-room. There are a public bar, a saloon bar, a ladies' bar, a bottle-and-jug for those who are too bashful to buy their supper beer publicly, and, upstairs, a dining-room.

Games are only played in the public, so that in the other bars you can walk about without constantly ducking to avoid flying darts.

In the Moon Under Water it is always quiet enough to talk. The house possesses neither a radio nor a piano, and even on Christmas Eve and such occasions the singing that happens is of a decorous kind.

The barmaids know most of their customers by name, and take a personal interest in everyone. They are all middle-aged women ?two of them have their hair dyed in quite surprising shades?and they call everyone "dear," irrespective of age or sex. ("Dear," not "Ducky": pubs where the barmaid calls you "ducky" always have a disagreeable raffish atmosphere.)

Unlike most pubs, the Moon Under Water sells tobacco as well as cigarettes, and it also sells aspirins and stamps, and is obliging about letting you use the telephone.

You cannot get dinner at the Moon Under Water, but there is always the snack counter where you can get liver-sausage sandwiches, mussels (a speciality of the house), cheese, pickles and those large biscuits with caraway seeds in them which only seem to exist in public-houses.

Upstairs, six days a week, you can get a good, solid lunch ?for example, a cut off the joint, two vegetables and boiled jam roll?for about three shillings.

The special pleasure of this lunch is that you can have draught stout with it. I doubt whether as many as 10 per cent of London pubs serve draught stout, but the Moon Under Water is one of them. It is a soft, creamy sort of stout, and it goes better in a pewter pot.

They are particular about their drinking vessels at the Moon Under Water, and never, for example, make the mistake of serving a pint of beer in a handleless glass. Apart from glass and pewter mugs, they have some of those pleasant strawberry-pink china ones which are now seldom seen in London. China mugs went out about 30 years ago, because most people like their drink to be transparent, but in my opinion beer tastes better out of china.

The great surprise of the Moon Under Water is its garden. You go through a narrow passage leading out of the saloon, and find yourself in a fairly large garden with plane trees, under which there are little green tables with iron chairs round them. Up at one end of the garden there are swings and a chute for the children.

On summer evenings there are family parties, and you sit under the plane trees having beer or draught cider to the tune of delighted squeals from children going down the chute. The prams with the younger children are parked near the gate.

Many as are the virtues of the Moon Under Water, I think that the garden is its best feature, because it allows whole families to go there instead of Mum having to stay at home and mind the baby while Dad goes out alone.

And though, strictly speaking, they are only allowed in the garden, the children tend to seep into the pub and even to fetch drinks for their parents. This, I believe, is against the law, but it is a law that deserves to be broken, for it is the puritanical nonsense of excluding children ?and therefore, to some extent, women?from pubs that has turned these places into mere boozing-shops instead of the family gathering-places that they ought to be.

The Moon Under Water is my ideal of what a pub should be ?at any rate, in the London area. (The qualities one expects of a country pub are slightly different.)

But now is the time to reveal something which the discerning and disillusioned reader will probably have guessed already. There is no such place as the Moon Under Water.

That is to say, there may well be a pub of that name, but I don't know of it, nor do I know any pub with just that combination of qualities.

I know pubs where the beer is good but you can't get meals, others where you can get meals but which are noisy and crowded, and others which are quiet but where the beer is generally sour. As for gardens, offhand I can only think of three London pubs that possess them.

But, to be fair, I do know of a few pubs that almost come up to the Moon Under Water. I have mentioned above ten qualities that the perfect pub should have and I know one pub that has eight of them. Even there, however, there is no draught stout, and no china mugs.

And if anyone knows of a pub that has draught stout, open fires, cheap meals, a garden, motherly barmaids and no radio, I should be glad to hear of it, even though its name were something as prosaic as the Red Lion or the Railway Arms.



So, there we have it - Humphrey's plan - so isn't it a shame he seems to be doing everything to frustrate it??!! :'(
















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Re: 'The Moon Under Water' - George Orwell
« Reply #1 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
i remember it well jimbob,i kept my copy to save ,when i write my book( life with uncle sam)infact i keepevery memo and have done for 3 years,me n the family sit every xmas eve in front of the pub fire ,drinking draught stout out of china mugs,served to us by our motherly barmaid with purple hair, and we hold a toast to uncle humpty pmsl!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
LOL ;D

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« Reply #3 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
I remember the manager of one of the pubs showing this memo to the customers in the bar during a quiet lunchtime session and laughing out loud. Firstly because it showed that HS had some funny ideas, secondly because some of the ideas Orwell put down would have been unworkable under the SS regime, and thirdly, because HS seemed to be blissfully unaware that The Moon Underwater was actually written by Orwell as a satire...i.e. the perfect pub that doesn't exist ! Tim Martin at JD Wetherspoon seems like the sort of guy who possesses a) the sense of humour to name some of his pubs after this perfect ideal as he knows a satire when he comes accross one and b) the sense of humour to name his chain after one of his schoolmasters, and wanting the name to sound like a character from The Dukes of Hazzard (a bit like Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd naming their band after a disciplinarian PE Teacher).
The point I'm making is that for HS to send a fictional satire to his managers as a memo (and by default an instruction) shows either ignorance of Orwell's intentions or a strange sense of reality. Or it could be a master stroke of bluffing - wanting to see how many other people realise it's a satire and turning the joke on them !

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Re: 'The Moon Under Water' - George Orwell
« Reply #4 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
The Waterspoon's in Wigan is called "The Moon Under Water", because of obvious connections to Orwell.

No Samuel Smith's pubs in Wigan though.

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« Reply #5 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
Milton - spot on I think when you ponder if Humphrey has "a strange sense of reality". Everything I've ever read or heard about the man confirms that to me in spades! By contrast, I've never heard any evidence of either a sense of humour or irony being present. I'd love to be proved wrong however.

Certainly all his expensive attention to his heritage estate would indicate a keeness to return as many pubs as possible to that described by Orwell in 1946, whether intended satirically or not! 

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« Reply #6 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
The WAterspoon's in Wigan is called "The Moon Under Water", because of obvious connections to Orwell.

No Samuel Smith's pubs in Wigan though.

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[/The conservative club in hindley,wigan been selling sams for a few years now but unfortunately no cask !  colrac65quote]

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« Reply #7 on: Jun 14 - 2010 »
There can't be too many Conservative Clubs in the Socialist Republic of Wigan!

What prices do they sell Samuel Smith's for?

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 16 - 2010 »
I think its about ?1.90 ish,if left on the bar for an hour it warms up a bit as its coming through the same cooler as the alpine, and then it is not to bad,they wont get cask on as i think they wont sell enough with it only opening in the evenings.I asked if they could order me a firkin for my own hand pump in my shed and was told only 22's were available and big deposit was required with casks  being oak so Timothy taylor from keighley went on instead.cr.

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« Reply #9 on: Jun 16 - 2010 »
Dreaded flash coolers.  Usually, as far as I am aware, Samuel Smith's mainly do 36 gallons (a barrel).  Do you buy through The Wigan Beer Company (http://www.wiganbeer.co.uk/)?

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« Reply #10 on: Jun 16 - 2010 »
I have also heard that 36's are only available so unlucky,and wigan beer are only down the road from me and are a decent bunch of people.

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 16 - 2010 »
We have a similar set up in a barn here, complete with darts board, pool table, traditional pubs games, a bar, proper glassware, live music and a telly (yes Humphrey Smith, a telly!)...and no, it's not a pub! I buy from Small Beer, who are just down the road from me - it works out to be around ?1.00 to 1.20 per pint!  ;D  Bateman's XB and Thwaites Original were the last two we had.

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« Reply #12 on: Jun 17 - 2010 »
I used to go in the Moon under the Water in Watford when I lived there, but it was a Wetherspoons so no Sam Smiths.