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Offline Burkey

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Whats gone wrong
« on: Aug 22 - 2010 »
Iv'e just found this site and can't belive what i have read.I was a Sam Smiths manager from 1982-1990 in Rochdale and Burnley, in those days you could'nt have worked for a better brewery it was like 1 big happy family.My wife and i unfortunately lost a baby and they could not do enough for us really fantastic,Oliver would often pop in in for 1/2 of obb never paid of course but allways asked how we were doing.The expences were never a problem or were staff hours or entertainment costs as long aswe selling beer he was happy.It is so sad to here how the company has changed. :'(
 

Offline paulbrice58

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #1 on: Oct 24 - 2010 »
Things wont change while Humph is still alive i am afraid, i hope your reading this smithy you git.

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #2 on: Oct 24 - 2010 »
Burkey, as you finished my wife and I started with the company having completed our 2 weeks at the training centre and 6 weeks in house training.
The training scheme was second to none followed by occasional 1 day training on first aid, fire fighting, customer restraint, cellar management courses, food hygiene. We finished up with more certificates than a modern day school leaver.
As you will remember at that time of your employ you could purchase Merrydown Cider, Lambs, Bells, Vladivaar, Creme de Menthe, Jack Daniells etc the list goes on. In todays terms when you enter a Sams pub its like entering Lidel, the majority of the spirits are there, but not as you know them. You can't even buy a bloody bitter lemon for the missus because Sams don't sell it.  Christmas coming, sorry no snowballs, no babychamp, Smiffy hasn't got round to copying those yet.
The downhill slide started with the removal of Sky TV followed by TV of any kind and a music ban throughout the Estate.
The Fuherer then decided that we were all fiddling him so a 5% surplus was demanded. Anyone who knows maths will note that it is an impossibility to reach that figure without robbing the customer.
It was more recently decided that no free pool was to be given to anyone, even your pool team. They have to pay for the table when they are at home. Have you ever heard anything like it?
All the area managers have left, the good and the bad.
People are being set on now by Smiffy or his representitive by knocking on doors to see if anyone would be interested in taking over their local.
What a joke company it has turned out to be, a bloody laughing stock, yet a decade or more ago, as you infer, it was the family firm to work for offering training of the highest degree, and rewards and care for the genuine hard working employee.
If Chris Brown or Mick Thompson are reading this, then please note that you were the best of the best, very well respected, and have been sadly missed. Never heard a bad word said against either of you lads. Its a pity that some of your skills in man management has not rubbed off on Smiffy.
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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #3 on: Oct 24 - 2010 »
All of what you say is has a ring of truth but at least SS has not been sold of to the city as have a lot of other so called independants. Drove through Burton last week, the 'British museum of Brewing' is in 'Coors' back yard.Sorry Coors it's not the British just Burton[/u]. Bass, S&N, Boddingtons and soon Tetley's will or are all gone. Enterprise Inns etal don't make me laugh how Mr Turpin etc have screwed everybody and gone away pissing themselves at even more gullable starry eyed publicans throwing money and time into there wage and pension pots. Sky TV? wish i was a rich man to be able to show it. Is that Vladivaar from Vloody Varrington? A name is just a name, unless you put a daisy(whoops, upset the Yorkshiremen from Hull again) on the lable but that's another story. ;) Yipee no snowballs or babycham (got some pony's left if you want one) might have a bottle of advocate with one out from last year if you're really desperate to please the gaffer or the once a year regular at 2.45pm christmas day;D

PS You can buy a "Bitter Lemon" it should be next to the tonic. :-*

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Don't show this to Humphry he might charge them for it.
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Offline sovsuppa

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #4 on: Oct 25 - 2010 »
All of what you say is has a ring of truth but at least SS has not been sold of to the city as have a lot of other so called independants. Drove through Burton last week, the 'British museum of Brewing' is in 'Coors' back yard.Sorry Coors it's not the British just Burton[/u]. Bass, S&N, Boddingtons and soon Tetley's will or are all gone. Enterprise Inns etal don't make me laugh how Mr Turpin etc have screwed everybody and gone away pissing themselves at even more gullable starry eyed publicans throwing money and time into there wage and pension pots. Sky TV? wish i was a rich man to be able to show it. Is that Vladivaar from Vloody Varrington? A name is just a name, unless you put a daisy(whoops, upset the Yorkshiremen from Hull again) on the lable but that's another story. ;) Yipee no snowballs or babycham (got some pony's left if you want one) might have a bottle of advocate with one out from last year if you're really desperate to please the gaffer or the once a year regular at 2.45pm christmas day;D

PS You can buy a "Bitter Lemon" it should be next to the tonic. :-*

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Don't show this to Humphry he might charge them for it.
Brilliant mate, absolutely spot on.

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #5 on: Oct 25 - 2010 »
Completly agree with you blueboy  :(

Offline blueboy

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #6 on: Oct 25 - 2010 »
Sorry, I have found out that Sams now do a bitter lemon. A few years ago when stocks had run down we were not to replenish the shelves for some reason and it was withdrawn from being a draught product also.
I found the comment "A name is just a name" interesting when I mentioned the fact that we used to do brand names on whisky, vodka, rum etc, I think that true spirit drinkers themselves may have something to say about that comment.
Sam Smiths shorts may be look alikes but certainly not taste alikes.



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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #7 on: Oct 27 - 2010 »
The Brandy is run of the mill just like supermarkets own brands,nothing wrong with their own stuff but one would expect a Cognac to be sold.The Cognac they did sell a couple of years ago was very good but a bit expensive at ?2.50 a shot,they then started selling the crap Brandy.

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Re: Whats gone wrong
« Reply #8 on: Oct 27 - 2010 »
They don't do Tia Maria (or an inequivalent) - so no 'Black Russians' in any Sams pubs! :(
These are sad times :(